Wednesday, June 4, 2008

More about SATC

I know the Sex and the City movie (and how men love to hate it) spurred a lot of debate in the comments. Here's a Newsweek article that continues the discussion: Criticism of 'Sex and the City' is mostly Sexist.

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11 comments:

Dan Williams said...

I think persons need to be cautious about getting caught up in generalizations, especially the "Men think this, Women think that" kind. It's just not useful to try to divide the very complex audience into two simple categories.

For the record, I was much more interested and delighted to hear about the SATC movie than I ever was about Ironman or Indiana Jones, and I'm a man.

The SATC movie is just more interesting. But then, that's just me, I just like thoughtful entertainment. But I have no ill feelings for those who don't.

Emily Blake said...

I hate SATC and I'm a woman.

Numb Frog said...
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Numb Frog said...

I do hate sex and the city, although I do like having sex in the city.

Carlo Conda said...

I don't really like the show nor the movie cause it's a little blatant in how it's a bus for advertisers. My mother was laughing at the news of SATC being sold out at a few theaters near us and how stores were having sales because all of the women went shopping sprees after watching the movie.

It was kind of embarrassing. It's like women's version of sports, and they've got a great business model that surprisingly sturdy even though we're apparently more aware of advertising and the media than we've ever been.

Carlo Conda said...

And watching horny women on television blabber isn't very interesting. Maybe it's entertaining (it's got a quirkiness to it), but the episodes and characters are so transparent. It's a service to certain types of women - from what I've seen, the kind who watch E.T - and that's about it.

Amy R. Butler said...

I only watch the TV show when I'm at my parents house doing nothing during breaks. My friend and I get free movie tickets on Tuesdays, so we went to see it. I really enjoyed it, and I think it's a really interesting phenomenon, both as from a cultural television-film point of view and from a feminist theory point of view. As for the transparency of characters, it fits the storytelling style - the stories are about complex problems that are met by women who are honestly trying to figure out their lives. Hence, transparency is sorta good for the story.

I didn't go crazy shopping afterwards. I'm not a fashionista, and, actually, a ripple of laughter went through the crowd when SJP emerged on her wedding day because she had this huge turquoise bird in her veil. And I don't watch E.T.

I'm also not a huge fan of SATC. Like I said, I just watch it a few weeks out of the year. But I enjoy it when I do. Clearly, thousands of other people also connected with it, and that's more than I can say about any story *I've* written yet.

Cheers

adam _______________________ said...

Carlo-
Way to plaster yourself as a poster boy for what that article was talking about.

I frankly thought the article was a little poorly written, and a lot wayyyy behind-the-times-obvious.

But way to give it merit.

Carlo Conda said...

I didn't like the article. Saying that men don't like SATC for sexist reasons is silly and simply idiotic. I like the women side of the show, and I'm fine with other female-oriented shows and movies in whole.

SATC is just a little too blatant in how it presents its stories and communicate to their audience, which I feel they know all to well as a target marketing audience.

GetOnMyMap Media said...

I liked the show when I was in high school and college, but then again if a cable show had "sex" in the title I would watch it. For me, the novelty of the show was the frankly sexual conversations of the women - I remember thinking I should remember these little discussions as an entre into the dating pool. I didn't like it so much in the later seasons as it got soapier and sillier, more about the running plots and less about the funny topics. I thought the formula worked because it employed an antiquated story-telling structure with salty, new subject matter: a "spunky, city newswoman's" voiceover describing the social mores around blowjobs, waxing and other awesome stuff.

Anyway, I feel like being a guy and liking the show is somehow antithetical, but I don't - the show was well-written and often very entertaining. I didn't come for the dresses and the shoes, I came for the insights into female adult sexuality.

So the movie only disappointed me when it lost its focus on what I liked about the show and lapsed into a fashion-commercial, music video or soap opera. The big Big meltdown rang completely false and overdramatic - one of the show's big strengths was it's preference for emotional honesty and candor over operatics.

I don't think liking SATC, or not, is specific to your gender or sexual orientation. I know plenty of spendthrift girls who hate it and plain janes who love it. At it's best it was escapist, funny and dirty but not too dirty. I wish the movie would have been moreso, but oh well. I'm gonna go chug a Budweiser and get into a fight with a guy on rollerblades now!

a. said...

As demonstrated in the "article" below, doesn't anyone else feel the product placement that gets a pass is too crass?

http://www.vanityfair.com/ontheweb/blogs/daily/2008/05/sex-and-the-cit.html


Also, check out my blog for a short political screenplay. No product placement, I promise.